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and the senate majority leader's office and john boehner's office, the house republicans. but so far what we've seen, at least in the principal, is really just highlighting the differences and how stark the differences are. yes, there have been some republicans who have publicly said they are open to poe tengts tax increases, revenue increases, but even more so we're seeing this entrenchment over the military spending cuts, the unwilling nness to see that and we're seeing on the democratic side the idea that maybe it wouldn't be so bad if we went over the fiscal cliff and kicked the can down the road to the next congress which will be more favorable from the liberal perspective to negotiating on these big picture issues. frankly, i think it would be harder to have a compromise on son-in-law of the entitlement reform that republicans want to see, at least some movement before they will agree before this talk of raising taxes will be anything more than the lip service that you mentioned. >> okay. so ken is suggesting there it's in republicans' interests to do a deal now. jared, the white house
speaker john boehner is flipping his lid over obama care again. he has no leverage, but now he wants the affordable care act on the table in fiscal cliff negotiations. congressman elijah cummings will respond. papa john's plays politics with pizza and the people fight back. >> no, no, no, no. >> we'll tell you about the pizza maker's face-saving move. and republicans never rest. ohio senator turner on the effort to block the vote in 2016. >>> and political comedian, baratunde thurston on how to talk to this guy at thanksgiving. ♪ i want my country back, country back, country back ♪ . >>> good evening, folks. thanks for watching. someone needs to sit down with the republicans and explain to them how negotiations work. when you have no leverage, you don't get to make outlandish statements and demands. house speaker john boehner recently called himself the most reasonable man in washington, but in an editorial for the cincinnati enquirer today, boehner took the very unreasonable position of including obama care in debt negotiations. "the president's health care law adds a massive, e
to meet with leaders of the business world this afternoon politico is reporting that john boehner and his leadership team are making plans to meet with some of these very same executives. now the irony here is that obama and boehner still have no plans to meet themselves face-to-face. the two did meet before congress' thanksgiving recess along with the other two three members of the house and the senate. they had plans to meet again this week but still nothing is scheduled. it is not a great sign and shows that the two groups are practically incapable of working together. the last time obama and boehner tried putting together a big deal over the budget, that completely collapsed and this time around, the american people are getting less and less optimistic that congress will be able to reach a deal before the tax hikes and spending cuts kick in just 33 days. it is going to look bad for congress if they cannot get this done and some republicans are saying it's time to give in. politico's also reporting oklahoma representati
are meeting with the white house chief staff. john boehner is having some meetings with business leaders. meanwhile, the staff of the senate and the house and the white house are all meeting -- this purpose of avoiding the fiscal cliff which is now 35 days off or something. so first of all, two questions. how serious is it and what do you think is going to happen? >> it is potentially very serious that is if we hit the fiscal cliff and go over it and it stays in place. the deficit falls by $600 billion, the largest one-year reduction in history but will throw the economy back into a recession. unemployment will go from 7.9% currently to over 9%. i don't think that's going to happen. i do think we'll go over the cliff, not have a deal before it happens. i think it will be fixed shortly after this -- after they storm the castle with pitch forks and torches but this is potentially the worst fiscal policy since the end of the great depression when we went into an austerity program too early and threw the economy back i
and merciful. but he may not be so nice with the republican. turns out, speaker john boehner is back to his old tricks, refusing to compromise in the debt talks and holding the middle class hostage. even right after the election two weeks ago, he was all sunshine and smiles. >> i'm the most reasonable, responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over, now it's time to get to work. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected. obama care is the law of the land. >> i'm reasonable. i'm responsible. obama care's the law of the land. now, there's a guy the president can work with, right? wrong. politico says that boehner's opening offer to the president is to keep the bush tax cuts, cut entitlements, and postpone cuts to the pentagon. in other words, they haven't budged at all. how is that compromise? how is that reasonable? but it gets worse. speaker boehner now says the health care law should go under the knife. boehner says, quote, we can't afford it. we can't afford to leave it in tact. that's why i've been cle
. and you look everybody is saying it, john boehner, mitch mcconnell peter king lindsay graham, on and on and on. all of these republicans coming out and saying we agree, you can't do it by spending cuts alone. you have got to raise revenues and we're on board, and we're willing to break the grover norquist pledge. these guys have totally recognized the american people agree with obama, and so therefore they are going to change their ways. here is my advise to all of you, all right. don't believe it. this is a con game. this is a shell game that the republicans are playing. let's listen to some of the voices. here for example is saxby channedless. it's valid now but times have changed significantly. and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year old pledge. >> bill: oh, yeah. he is setting himself up there as oh, man, i love my country, more than i love grover norquist. peter king yesterday. >> i agree entirely, a pledge you signed 18 years ago is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1841 i would have signed the declaration of war agai
. speaker john boehner deserves some leeway to try to mitigate the damage by negotiating a larger tax reform. leeway to negotiate sounds pretty sane to me. for some, of course, that's a great big lump of coal wrapped up as an early christmas present. >> revenue that happens to be the democratic code word for tax increases. that is simply not an acceptable position for any true conservative. republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort of by default it has become their opening negotiation position. >> i see. so their opening position is the one that was vigorously debated and comprehensively defeated just three weeks ago. i guess the only question now is, wh
the republicans agree with the president? well, that about turned speaker john boehner's blood into a red river valley of rage. >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top -- on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses. will hurt our economy. >> taxing the rich hurts small business, yes, the very familiar offerings of one mitt romney. losing presidential candidate. who will be enjoying a free government lunch tomorrow at the white house at the invitation of the president. not sure what will be on the menu, but many are betting on a generous serving of crow with a beet salad. let's go to our panel, with him y william cohen, and here in new york is msnbc political analyst jonathan alter, also a columnist for the "bloomberg view." the president is pressing his case hard for a deal on middle class tax relief. secretary geithner will head to the hill. is john boehner now facing the rising tide against his yacht owners and the like? >> i think he is. a 60-37 margin on supporting raising taxes
to go back to the negotiations he had with john boehner in the summer, and they've done a lot of work. those guys got pretty close in the summer of 2011. now the president has more leverage. the tea party part of the house republican caucus is in a less powerful position and less fired up. we're pretty far away from the 2010 elections now. john boehner is trying to exercise some kind of power and tell those people that he needs them to stay in line. i think, you know, the tax thing, i keep trying to -- to me it seems obvious what's going to happen. that the bush tax cuts are all going to expire on january 1st. and then they're going to reinstitute the ones for people making under $250,000 a year. republicans will not vote to do a partial thing, right? because they regard that as raising taxes. they won't vote for it. we'll go past january 1st. then when democrats offer to reinstate the tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year, republicans will vote for that. that's another tax cut. it seems to me this solves the republican problem, which is that we won't vote to raise rates. that's h
person doesn't agree with tom cole who i showed in the opening and that's speaker john boehner. let me show you what the speaker had to say. >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. the goal here is to grow the economy and control spending. you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> so, joy, boehner is not exactly ready to go along with the american people, it seems. >> i think what you just saw there, rev, was a man waiting for bated breath on january 3rd, hoping that every day gets shorter and shorter and shorter as long as we're still in the lame duck congress and tea party members are still there. i think john boehner still has an ounce of fear that he will lose that vote. so he's always watching his right flank. i think boehner will be in a stronger position if we get to january 3rd and there isn't a deal and he can force a deal on his tea party members but this is a guy who still has to message to the right. this deal would have
or to clear another challenge before the supreme court. it is law and even john boehner knows it. >> you had said next year that you would repeal the health care vote. that still your mission? >> i think the election changes that. it is pretty clear that the president was re-elected and obama care is the law of the land. >> that was boehner less than two weeks ago. it was pretty clear that mission repeal obama care had failed. the voters had spoken and obama care as speaker boehner said is the law of the land. republicans weren't super happy about that message. they thought boehner was getting a little squishy, giving up a fight. that election we just had. the one where voters re-elected the obama care guy, the one that had obama in his name, that was but a flesh wound. today boehner wrote an op-ed to the cincinnati inquirer which begins with, quote, president obama has won re-election but as was the case before the election, obama care has to go. if you read on in his op-ed, things get a little strange. boehner went on to share the big plan which is, quote, over the past couple of years i h
. the inappropriate e-mails. >> you're saying that barack obama meeting with john boehner and mitch mcconnell doesn't quite get readers as excited? >> not as titillating. >> this is what the election was fought over and yet i have the impression that a lot of the country is yawning but really many of the journalists covering the story are oning. >> there's a story about low how the mighty are falling. privacy, security, while covering the sex. >> are you suggesting that the bigger issues are actually a bit of a shall we say figure lea le? there are bigger issues there but the problem is the fiscal cliff is extremely important. it's interesting to me that it's ben bernanke who dubbed it. i would have thought a reporter would have dubbed it. >> as a consumer of newses, when you see stories about the fiscal cliff do you go clicking off to someone else? >> no. i don't. i try. i try my darnest. i pick up the stories and think i'm going to understand it for once. it's a big, big story if you're covering economic on a national stage. i think it is getting covered a lot yochl ku. blame the media if readers
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tweet me @wolfblitzer. >>> out front next today, president obama and speaker of the house john boehner both hint that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is on the way. possibly in time for santa. i asked republican john cornyn whether he thinks that is a reality. >>> and governor romney sits down with the president since the election, actually since the debates. does this do either of them any good? rick santorum is out front. and julian assange is out front to answer critics and our questions tonight. let's go "out front." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight, an early christmas miracle. or at least the glimmer of one today. barack obama bringing glad ti tidings of great joy to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i will go anywhere and do anything it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and john boehner, not to be outdone, put a little early present under the tree too. >> i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> these are pretty glum faces to deliver those present
are starting to turn away a little bit from speaker john boehner. tom coal rank and file member. is he part of the leadership but from oklahoma and basically said today extend them for the large majority for the middle class and come back and fight it out in january instead of going off the cliff. take a listen. >> everybody's taxes are scheduled to go up. and unless we fix that, paradoxically president obama becomes the defender of the bush tax cut for 98% of the people and he is he no such thing. >> bottom line is both sides are still laying out the same ideas they have been doing for weeks now. today irskin bowls one of the key budget experts says he believes there is a two thirds chance that he wool go off the fiscal cliff. that's not too optimistic tonight, shep. >> shepard: not at all. ed henry live on the north lawn. the president is sending one of his top negotiators to capitol hill tomorrow to meet with congressional leaders from both parties. mike emanuel is live for that part. is he live on the hill tonight. what's the latest on the talks. >> there is always hope for tomorrow tha
, at&t. you see the signs here, just to name a few. on the republican side, house speaker john boehner says the gop has done its part and now it is time for the democrats to show their cards on spending cuts. >> we all know that we have had this spending crisis coming at us like a freight train. and it has to be dealt with. and in order to try to come to an agreement, republicans are willing to put revenue on the table, but it is time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. >> president obama and speaker boehner's last face to face meeting on the fiscal cliff was 12 days ago. though apparently they did talk over the phone this weekend. if the president and congress do not cut a deal, let me repeat myself here, massive tax hikes and spending cuts automatically kick in the first of next year. joining me now from washington is representative marcia blackbird, a house republican, represents the seventh district of tennessee which covers some of the suburb s between nashvile and memphis. nice to see you. thanks for coming on today. >>
are off to a rocky start with house speaker john boehner writing an editorial saying he thinks the president's health care plan should be on the table. that is certainly something that both sides will go to the mat over, but i think there's a lot of pressure to get a deal done by the first of the year for the reason that you just cited. because if they don't, this will have a big impact according to a lot of economists on the economy and they just don't want to see that happen and bear the brunt of that. >> understandably so. quickly, the president's plans for today are what? is he there in the house behind you or elsewhere? >> reporter: he is in the house behind me. quiet day at the white house with his traditional thanksgiving dinner with the first family. i'm sure there will be all the fixings on the table, turkey, ham, a lot of different types of pies. yesterday president obama bardened a thanksgiving turkey cobbler and alternate gobbler and they went to a local food bank to deliver food there. president obama today delivering his weekly address wishing all americans a happ
bring some hope to john boehner, the man in charge of actually negotiating this deal with the president. after the election, the speaker did say increased revenues were acceptable if coupled with entitlement reform. but will it be supported in the house? that's where grover is seen as more of a legend than a lobbyist. some are signaling the tax debate does not start and end with this old pledge. eric cantor, who was adamant last time about opposing any revenue increase hit that note on msnbc just this morning. >> there's a lot that has been said about this pledge, and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have re-elected me, it is not about that pledge, it really is about trying to solve problems. john boehner went to the white house ten days ago and said republicans in the house were willing to put revenues on the table. that was a big move. >> by the standards of republican politics, ben, that was a big move. and eric cantor is doing something pretty important there. i just want to say before we go into all of the nitty-gritty details, tell us about what it means for eric
reid and speaker john boehner by phone on saturday when you see him this week he will be getting by with a little help from his friends ordinary unelected americans. joining us professor of economics at the university of michigan justin wool fers. great to see you. before i ask for your economic analysis i want to pose one question to my colleagues in new york, that is really about the optics of the president going straight forward and straight to the kisser as it were on the bush tax cuts, not really even talking about the fiscal cliff or the debt limit which looms in february or march. >> as we know there is no real fiscal cliff. it's more of a curve or a mole hill. it's serious and real but not going over the cliff. if there is something of a cliff-like situation, it's playing to the president's advantage. december 31st what he doesn't want, the bush tax cuts for the rich, will be gone. they'll also be gone with the middle-class tax cuts. two years ago the republicans tried to hold the president hostage and said listen, if you don't give us the bush high-end tax cuts we're not
's representative in the negotiation, and harry reid is telling a far different stories. john boehner and his caucus, the target, again, of senator reid's blame game. the senate majority leader insistent that republicans are the only onee in the way of the deal. reid asked point blank what the first thing would be, and he offered this curious answer. >> well, remember, we've already done more than a billion dollars worth of cuts. we've already done that. we need to get some credit for that and the negotiations that take place. lou: meanwhile, according to the white house, everything is not on the table, the table that a president is not scheduled to be seated at. carney confirmed that president obama will not find any extension of the bush tax cuts for the top 2% of the earners in the nation, and a look at the president's schedule for the remainder of this week shows nothing in the way of negotiations on it. the president reverting back to campaign mode as the white house decided to lobby for public support of his fiscal cliff policy positions rather than negotiate a compromise. president obama beli
the debt limit unless forced to by john boehner. >> and by the way, john boehner is talking about having to get the majority of a majority on tax issues. he's not going to get a majority of majority on debt raising. >> much harder on the debt ceiling than taxes. >> that's what i'm saying. i refuse to vote to raise a debt ceiling when they were trying to raise it to $5 trillion. it's something you don't do unless you get a lot of cuts on the other side. >> and it's not a game. because if you don't raise it, we saw what happened last time, you can get your debt downgraded and has real economic consequenc consequences. and that's why when people think about the fiscal cliff, we all assume that sane minds will prevail and they'll come up with some deal. there's no guarantee that sane minds will prevail. and recent history would suggest that sanity almost never prevails in washington. so you can assume it's going to be more difficult than we think. you can assume that the bush tax cuts might all go away for a short period of time. and you cannot assume they just raise the debt limit. you cann
and what they are. is allowed john boehner and mitch mcconnell to govern recently. it's about the republican governors passed out ushers at the red states for the 24 states republican governors, republican legislature. blue are the 13 of 40 state spending on how you count new york, 13 of 14 state that a democratic governor and a democratic house and senate. and there you see the red states are not raising taxes. they're cutting taxes in the red states and blue states are raising taxes rather than reforming government. so the fight we're having in washington where there's gridlock in the stage of the opposite of gridlock. for the last two years. "new york times" wrote an article about last week, it's been true for two-year -- >> about the legislators -- >> the legislative in the various states that you've got 24 states if the republicans get together they can turn the state into hong kong or texas. you have 13 maybe 14 states if the democrats because they could turn their state into greece or california. >> we are in washington and the wording goes back to 86, right? >> yes. pa
that there is a war going on, not just in the democratic party, but the republican perhaps much more intense. john boehner is trying to work a deal with the president to do tax reform and entitlement reform and his deputy, the majority leader, calls people like paul ryan, who is now running for vice president. .. >> if you keep doing this, you are going to risk your speakership. the president said when i talked to him, interestingly enough, he said in fixing -- he realizes the magnitude of all of this, as does speaker boehner, key democrats, key republicans realize what it is. and the president literally said to me, i would willingly lose an election if i could solve these problems. it is that serious. tim geithner, the treasury secretary, in the book is quoted thousands of words telling the president, you have got to do something about this problem. we have to fix it. you literally, it's not that we're going to close down the government, we will close down the american economy and, in turn, the global economy. if they do not solve the issue of this runaway spending, get some way to stop borrowing
do you do that? well, john boehner went to the white house ten days ago and said republicans in the house are willing to put revenues on the table. that was a big move, right? >> a big move? huh? the gop has always been open to raising revenue. governor romney even promised to do that. it seems awfully similar to what speaker boehner offered a year ago during debt talks. >> we have an agreement on a revenue number. there was an agreement on some additional revenues. >> i stuck my neck out a mile and i put revenues on the table. >> revenues on the table? the gop is essentially offering the same thing they did a year ago. plus, they want to keep tack rates for the wealthy the same. they want to cut entitlements, postpone pentagon cuts, and now they are putting health care on the table. mr. cantor says the gop has presented a big move. nah. losing an election is big. i'm still waiting for the move part from them. joining me now is jared bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden and michelle cottle, washington correspondent for newsweek
package. we should not take ironclad positions. i would say john boehner has put together pretty good package and has been conciliatory in his language. host: that was yesterday. we are asking republicans what you think about indications from some republicans that they are willing to break their anti-tax pledge. here's the washington post story -- we will go to the phones to hear from kiev and, joining us from stafford, virginia. good morning. caller: good morning. if you listen very carefully, peter keane and even saxon chambliss and lindsey graham all said the same thing. we want revenue and are willing to generate revenue, but not by raising taxes. it is very simple. the president does not want to -- the president only wants to tax the rich because he said it during the campaign about 1 million times. millionaires and billionaires. a family of two that makes $250,000 a year are not millionaires. the problem is we are not opposed to revenue. we are opposed to a tax increases. lindsey graham said exactly that and peter king did too. it is against raising taxes. there are other ways t
letter of resignation to speaker john boehner. they confirmed that today and he write it is move will set off a scrammle to fill the seat in the chicago area. pat quinn will have five days from the effective date of the resignation to announce the time of the special election. jesse jackson jr. resigning his seat in congress. we'll keep you posted on that. and we said we would take you live to the united nations at 3:00 this afternoon. that has been pushed back likely in response to the news of the ceasefire in israel today. that has been pushed to 3:30 eastern. we will take you there once it gets under way. >> james on our 65 and over line. good afternoon, sir. caller: i'm 85-year-old and i was living good up until the last four years off of my retirement. but in the last four years the cost of living has gone up so much that i can't make it. i have to get out and get odd jobs to buy groceries. and this -- the first of this year i got a 1.7 increase in social security and cost of living went up 30% this year. host: what is the biggest thing that cost of living increase affects for you? c
votes for something in the middle. it depends on whether john boehner is willing to risk his speakership to -- >> nancy pelosi will have a role too. one has the sense that the leaders of the parties have fear sequester and fear going over the cliff. they don't want it even as members in their parties are starting to talk more about sequester as actually a way out and a way out that puts the other side on the david petraeus. >> meanwhile, maybe they should watch the movie before they make the deal. >> that's what i wrote that the president had the screening of "lincoln" at the white house which i was not at but should have a regular 4:00 showing and everybody should come down, sit in the nice sits, eat the popcorn and recognize a few things from the president's point of view that nice words and lofty speeches, gettysburg address are wonderful but we also need sort of hard-headed a little bit sleazy deal-making lobbying to go along. >> movies that -- >> wonderful. >> to go along with it and from the point of view of congress, that congress can rise above itself, can rise above partisanship
's talk raw numbers here. at the end of the day you have to find 218 house members. and in the past john boehner has said and, oh, by the way, his election is after the fiscal cliff. that happens a couple days after the fiscal cliff. so all of this maneuvering is complicated. to get to 218 he has said he wants a majority of the majority, which is approximately 120 republicans, so then you have to find some nearly 100 democrats to do this as well, and if that has social security and medicare in it, can it happen? >> you are not going to have a deal that only has taxes and doesn't do anything about entitlements. that's not acceptable even no those who indicated they would defy the mythical grover norquist. so maybe not social security but medicare and medicaid, it's hard to believe you don't have a deal that includes those as well. what do we have in a compromise? no one is happy with it and everyone thinks it's important enough to go ahead and do. >> brad, very quickly, will boehner be willing to go to the floor without the majority? >> i think boehner will negotiate the best deal he can
there is no second sit down scheduled for the president and congressional leaders he did speak to john boehner and harry reid over the weekend about avoiding the fiscal cliff. the president will meet with small business owners today. tomorrow he meets with middle class americans who would be affected by tax hikes and more business leaders. friday he's going to travel to hatfield pennsylvania where he will give campaign style remarks to get support for congress to negotiate the right kind of deal. we are back with more steph after this. ♪ [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >> yahoo, it is the "stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 1-800-steph-1-2 toll free from everywhere. steven weber. he will be there nobody panic he will be right there. charlie pierce said some good stuff about the fiscal cliff and other things. this is going to be a fascinating discussion. the president playing three dimensional chess. told you so. >> never mind. >> never mind. >> corn? when did we book corn? [ laughter ] >> oh, you kids. i swear. all right, you kn
are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senators lindsey graham, saxby chambliss, congressman peter king among other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that
on the phone with senate majority leader harry reid and john boehner over the weekend. and besides carney says, the president has to talk directly to the american people. >> it is vitally important that ordinary americans actively engage in this debate because the outcome of these negotiations and the hopeful product of these negotiations are the product that we hope emerges from these negotiations will profoundly affect their lives. >> so is the president, the missing ingredient to really nailing down a fiscal cliff deal? could he end the drama right now if he stayed put in washington and held a series of face-to-face meetings with reid, mcconnell, boehner, and pelosi instead of his planned meetings this week with small business owners, business leaders and middle class americans, not to mention a trip scheduled for friday to pennsylvania. a state he won by five points in the election, to sell american voters on a tax plan he has very loudly and clearly said he's already sold them on. mark warner is a member of the senate's bipartisan gang of eight. they've been working to develop a deficit r
. interestingly enough, moments ago we heard from someone within mitch mcconnell's party, speaker john boehner, saying he thinks a deal is possible. take a listen. >> it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. but i'm optimistic. >> he's optimistic. we also have boehner saying he is disagreeing with tom cole, one of the few republicans who have come out to usual his party to strike a deal. right now, get this done. keeping the bush tax cults for 98% of americans, give up on keeping tax cuts low for the wealthy, 2%. take a listen to what cole on capitol hill had to say moments ago. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people who make less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now and continue to fight against any rate increase, continue to try to work honestly for a much bigger deal. >> has the tipping point been reached, sir? is the compromise in front of us right now because so many republicans are willing to talk act revenue? >> well, look. tom cole, who is a friend of mine,
't they have to be reformed or modified? >> i think the john boehner and mitch mcconnell are going to have a tough sell in front of the american people and a reason why paul ryan was a pretty unpopular vice-presidential candidate. people do not want to cut those programs. >> gregg: and during the 2008 presidential debate, the president promised and i looked it up and double-checked it today, he promised that he would have entitlement reform accomplished and put forth by the end of his first term. hasn't done it. why not? >> well, i think we need to talk about smart cuts first, and what that means is getting rid of waste and fraud and abuse. it means getting rid of these things. >> gregg: he's breaking his promise, isn't he? >> i don't know that that's right. i think when we talked. >> gregg: i watched the debate today, they had a clip. >> sure. >> gregg: of it on youtube, you can take a look at it. and there are 258 americans signed onto the grover norquist pledge never to quote for a tax hike, closing tax loopholes. speaker boehner says i'm willing to break it and do the latter on deducti
norquist has had the republican party enthralled for the past 20 years. john boehner, tom coburn, even former president george bush, the first president bush, have basically said who's grover norquist? and they're right. jon: democrats, monica, have said president obama campaigned on this idea of raising taxes for couples making over $250,000 a year, and he won. therefore, that's what the country wants. >> well, look, this is not about grover norquist. this is about the path that the republicans should be taking. look, there are two key, core, sacred principles at stake here at play for the republicans. one is not to raise taxes and the other is cutting spending. if senator chambliss wants to go down the road with the democrats, he's welcome to it, but there will be a price to pay, especially in the very conservative state of georgia. he will likely be primaried and likely lose -- jon: you think he gives up his seat if he goes for this? >> probably, because he is in a conservative state. but remember, the problem here is not a revenue problem. the democrats have dominated the narrative
of the house john boehner and the president both know what happens in the future for them in what they're doing will be made much harder if they can't demonstrate they have the will now to at least get a framework deal together. that is just the way that that is. but the problem that they face is that very liberal democrats and very conservative republicans are going to look at them and say, if it is not a good enough deal we're willing to go off the cliff even if what that means most americans suffer a consequence, whether it is in the things that you described or in their 401(k)s as markets plunge. megyn: what happens to, what happens to the money that gets collected? looks like somebody will pay more in taxes whether it is the rich or rich first and then others, you know, once they start to tax one group historically others are not immune. >> well --. megyn: where does the money go? does it all go to the deficit, or to the debt? >> no. megyn: because we, a lot of americans think, all right, i want to help my fellow citizens and i don't like this national debt but you know who i don't want to
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. and that would not be good, but speaker of the house, john boehner along with mitch mcconnell represents republicans at the negotiating table, says he's open to finding the federal government more ways it take in money. >> to show our seriousness, we'll put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. and while we're going to continue to have revenue on the table. for my colleagues to show the american people that we're serious about cutting spending and solving our fiscal dilemma. but, just because speaker boehner says he backs new revenue doesn't mean we should expect him to suddenly support a big tax increase for the wealthiest americans. >> president obama wants to let the bush era tax cuts expire, so, the top marginal tax rate would rise from 35% to 39.6% and that's going to be a major sticking point in the next month or so, but a month might be all it takes to make a deal because the senate majority leader harry reid seems to think that something can be done by mid december. >> we have a cornerstone of being able to work something out. we're both g
to say. [video clip] >> he spoke with john boehner. by the weekend and he will meet with them at the appropriate time as well as nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell. so the process that he began is continuing. recanting you to be optimistic that a balanced approach is achievable. we know what the solutions are. it was senator who said that in an op-ed, one benefit of all of the debate said we have had any discussions over the past couple of years is that we know what the parameters of a balanced solution for these challenges look like. and they include both spending cuts and revenues and entitlement reform. they have to have -- all three legs of the school of got to report of that. >> jay carney at the white house. was asked about the idea of going off the fiscal cliff. alan krueger, the chairman of president obama's economic advisers, he spoke about what would happen if we go off this so-called fiscal cliff. in this report put out by the white house, american consumers will spend 200 billion less in 2013 if the fiscal cliff is not averted according to this white house report. ja
. here's john boehner's pledge signed 20 years ago. >> reporter: if somebody signed this, 10, 18, 20 years ago are they still bound by it? >> now when you got married, did your wife understand there was an expiration date on the promise? when you borrowed money for your house, did they extend -- oh, geez, that mortgage? that was ten years ago. you're still asking me for money? if you make a commitment, you make a commitment. >> reporter: the pledge is the biggest obstacle to any deal that would raise taxes. with a budget crisis on the horizon and re-elected president insisting on tax increases, some republicans are thinking the unthinkable. ditching the pledge. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country. >> i am not obligated on the pledge. >> the world has changed and the economic situation is different. >> reporter: and while virtually every republican in the past signed it, nearly a third of the newly elected house republicans refused to sign it this time. republicans ditching the pledge could be a big step toward a deal with the president. and on
, and don't to work for a bigger deal. >> is this the sign of a movement? it was quickly shot down by john boehner. >> i want your take on the comments -- is this the direction that the conference is going? >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. we'll put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> i think he is wrong and most of the congress thinks he is wrong. >> so talks continue behind the scenes with the photo-ops out front. >> i'm told speaker boehner was surprised by congressman cole's remarks when he heard them today. they said they believe a measure to extepid just the middle class tax cuts would pass if brought for a vote in the house, but republican aides say there is no plans for that as well. we learned late this evening that timothy geithner, and rob neighbors, a liaison for the house, are coming to meet with boehner and other leaders in separate meetings, so that is a very important meeting. what comes of that, of course, is encouraging. we'll see what comes of it. >> and geithner the point man. >> and later tonight, i will
and john boehner to bring their wings of the parties back in for any sort of a deal. because it seems like both sides are getting their back up at this point. >> well, i don't think it's making it more difficult, becky. i think what happens is at the beginning of a negotiation, everybody is sort of staking out their positions and their demands. you know, the demand by democrats, for example, that social security and medicare not be part of this discussion, that's not a sustainable demand. everybody knows that entitlement programs, the president has said so, have to be part of this. now, exactly what proportion and when they're part of it, those are things that you can talk about, but, no, they are part of this deal. so are tax increases, and, you know, republicans taking out the position that, well, we can't touch tax rates, we can touch tax loopholes, everybody's got to wait and see how the math adds up. this is an extremely complicated and difficult thing. >> i don't think -- i don't think it's well done to be negotiating in public like this because it only makes it more difficult. i wis
] >> ladies and gentleman, the speaker of united states house of representatives, the honorable john boehner. [applause] >> good morning, everyone. welcome, my colleagues, the leaders and the two chambers and my colleagues from the house and senate. certainly arnold and his family and friends. jack and barbara nicklaus, and fellow golfers here and around the world. arnie, i'm going to tell a couple of golf stories and we'll get around to giving you the gold medal. what makes this metal unique is that any american can win it. whether it be a general, an artist, and astronauts, or an athlete. you can start out selling paint and end up receiving congress's highest honor. not bad for an honest they's work. throughout his life, he's been a model of integrity, passion, and commitment. these are the attributes of a great golfer, and a great american. arne will tell you, it has never been about winning. he won the amateur championship back in 1964. that turning point, as he called it. there was something about the way he walked, attack the ball. asked about that, arnie said, everyone wants to win, b
reform on the table. guest: there is a problem -- it's going to be in the house. can john boehner get enough republican house members to support something like this? i think that is an open question. if nothing happens, the sequestration takes over. what makes this a good possibility that something will get done. the republicans' most concerned about this are folks like lindsey graham who are very worried about the defense cuts. will the republicans' desire for a strong national defense overcome their concerns for raising taxes? i do not think republicans will raise tax rates. i do not think it will raise capital gains. will democrats go along with that? state-owny tuned. host: are there other republicans you're waiting to see come out and send signals? guest: i did nothing so with king. he is been a modern big city republican. nothing wrong with that. the republicans that are signaling that might be amenable to a deal are the usual suspects so far. will somebody rise that will surprise you? that will be the question. i do not know the answer to that. it is incredibly difficult. there
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